Home owner expectations

So far, I’ve managed to spot warning signs and avoid hosts with unreasonable expectations, but all sitters see such listings and can decide for themselves.

Unless a listing is outright violating THS terms, subjectivity is involved. To me, it’s self-correcting if sits ask too much — presumably no one would apply then. But if someone wants to take on more than you or I do as sitters, it’s their choice.

What’s (un)reasonable is subjective. I’d say for instance that letting dogs out to do their business is not the same as a walk, which is extended time out beyond peeing and/or pooping.

Three actual walks a day is a lot for many dogs. My own simply refuses to walk that much, for instance, though he does all of his business outdoors. Sometimes, he just wants to do that and hop back inside. And we know he can hold it, because he often refuses to go out in rain or snow, for instance.

Of course all dogs need to relieve themselves. Any sitter who doesn’t do that enough will end up with indoor messes to clean up.

Anyone who tells everyone else what every dog needs is overstepping and lacks experience, because dogs and sit homes are all different. Some dogs don’t walk at all, for health reasons, for example, but all dogs need to pee and poop.

I say that as someone who has a dog and who sits dogs, including senior ones, ones who’ve had back surgery, one that was on anxiety medication and trembled in fear of leaving the house, but loved her back yard, and so on.

I recently sat a funny, quirky senior one who HATED walking. She’d quickly do her business outside the house and make a beeline for the indoors. If I delayed by a minute to grab the newspaper delivery, she’d bark, bark, bark to be let inside. Every day when it was time for her one walk, she’d resist. I’d have to carry her part way or half-way, so she’d be forced to walk home. Her humans said she’s always been like that and they’ve had her since puppyhood.

I had another sit where the hosts told me their dog needed an hour of walking, plus separate pee breaks. I took him out accordingly for the first few days and noticed he was dragging at the end of walking (versus peeing and pooping breaks), and adjusted, so he got his walking spread out more. His humans were fine with that, because they were rational — no one should force a dog beyond their health, energy or enthusiasm level.

Of course, sitters should not ever be picking just based on a sit location. If you don’t want to walk as much or do anything else that’s mentioned in the listing, then skip it. Like I avoid all sits where the dogs are described as energetic or active, or certain breeds that I know will need lots of activity.

But some hosts create problems. Like ones who spring unexpected responsibilities or limits on sitters should be reviewed accordingly and sitters need to uphold boundaries. In extreme cases, sitters might need to give notice and leave. That’s why everyone needs a backup plan. Otherwise you could end up trapped or stranded by a terrible host.

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Apparently not everyone agrees that walking a dog three times a day is minimal. My point is when is a sitter supposed to fit in relaxation and sightseeing? Am I traveling across this country to work for no pay or benefits? Sometimes I have so little time left to even leave the house.

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I recently saw a sit that requested a couple. It involved over 30 animals, including cats, dogs, goats, chickens and I believe, horses. The sitters had chores literally from sun up to past sundown and needed to be able to drive the farm truck to town to pick up feed and hay.
It was in my opinion, an absolutely ridiculous ask for an unpaid sit. I couldn’t get over the gall of the request. But…what if there really is a sit for every taste? Perhaps there was a book writing sitter who needed to research farm life, or indentured servitude? :joy:

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Some sits go unfilled. Like you’ll see some hosts posting about how they had to resort to kenneling or paid sitting, because they couldn’t find THS sitters.

To me — because THS sitting is voluntary and sitters also pay the company — it’s nutty to take on sits that are exploitative, abusive or such. But some people apparently have no homes or backup plans and have left themselves open to greater risks by sitting.

For some people (not me, I hasten to add!) this would be their dream sit - a chance for city dwellers (possibly) to live their dream…. and their chance to realise the harsh reality.

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Ive seen some corkers as well. One ho who zoomed me was definatley interviewing me and loving it. I can be a bit nervous about zooms but then when she asked…where do you see ypurself going with this career? Her pen poised over her notepad. I asked her if she was joking. She then explained she thought we were employed by ths and her yearly fee went to us. As wages. ,(3 week sit,) I told her that her yearly fee wouldn’t pay me for 3 hrs work in my last job then cut her off. By the way…im 72 . So 5 years time ? I hope to be at the top of my game and sitting for 2 cats at once.!

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Some people have no common sense, whether hosts or sitters, unfortunately.

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I’ve had this from home owners before too, asking how THS pays sitters as if we get a salary and they take a cut! Such home owners are usually surprised to learn we don’t, and that it’s a mutual exchange. Someone said to me recently that they felt the home owners got a lot more out of the service than sitters. I tend to disagree, but it surprises me whenever a home owner mentions the ‘free accommodation’ element or has ridiculous expectations.

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I think if you want to sight see and be a tourist, then you should sit cats, not dogs. I am actually a little allergic to cats, so I only sit dogs. But then I am just looking for a location, like stay south for the winter. I don’t care if I have to walk them every 4 or 6 hours. If I was taking a sit in Europe and wanted to sight see, then I probably wouldn’t do a sit. Since I don’t sit cats. Maybe a bird would work. But being touristy and sitting dogs, is two different things. But I am in a beautiful home, with a clubhouse a mile away – included, with indoor pool, hot tub, gym, sauna. Golf if I wanted. That is all care about. Beautiful walk to the lake. I don’t understand why people take dog sits when they don’t want to walk the dogs.

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I’d skip that sit as well because of the wording. It sounds like it could be a reaction to a particular sitter who didn’t do a great job on clean-up or possibly more than one. Or possibly to their now adult child. It makes assumptions and is condescending toward all sitters and that’s the reason. It’s also self-defeating for the host as it won’t help them attract the type of person they want.

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I agree with the trend you are seeing, unrealistic expectations of home owners. . Any pet owner who asks to walk their pets three to four times a day is not being realistic or completely truthful. Unless they are retired and have no life, they can not possibly do this themselves. So, why expect us to do it.
We pass by all listings with ridiculous requests, of any kind. They should take their animals to a kennel!

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With the irony being @Dunne that most kennels will give them one walk maximum and a short one at that. #makeszerosense

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All great ideas! I’d be happy to join these too.

Our dog does get three walks per day. We do both work full time, but partly from home. The walks are not always super long, and the afternoon walking time changes if necessary. But she has three walks per day, and has had for 6 years. Unless it’s raining, because she absolutely refuses to walk in the rain.

And yes @Cuttlefish , this is one of the big reasons we try our best to avoid kennels for her (but not the only one).

I think this is also partly a cultural thing. In Finland anything less than three walks a day would be frowned upon.

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I think that three walks for a dog are reasonable. However, I just looked at a cat sit where you are asked to feed the cats three times a day and also break the morning feed into two parts - so really, 4 times a day. For a cat sit!

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I’m very glad this is getting posted about more. The cleaning / rating situation is getting truly out of hand and I have posted about it before. What other houseguest would you demand clean your whole house after staying? And what’s more, rate them on it with a critical eye? And this is a houseguest who also took care of your pet and home chores every day. We are not staff! We are people experimenting with a web platform to see if things match up for a win-win, just like you, and entering into unknown situations. Yes, that win-win is valuable and amazing when it happens. Maybe even addictive and fun! So people get eager. But conditions still have to be right.

The yardwork issue hasn’t come up in many sits for me, it’s usually just watering and deadheading which I enjoy, but it does raise issues like…what if a plant dies while you’re there? What if you trim something in a way they don’t like? All we can do is our best guess or try to have fun with it. Because yes, these sits are meant to be enjoyable. I would never be mowing someone’s yard. And I would never be cleaning their entire home. A basic tidy up is all I can offer.

In terms of scheduling, it’s thanks to these forums that I got more conscious about those things. I now know my limits about wake-up times, multiples of walks per day, and hours I can leave an animal be. I agree that for this platform it should be a fairly lowkey situation, and that I’m also turned off by “3 walks a day” and “cant be alone for more than 2 hours” but hey, maybe someone still applied.

I have been thinking about these situations in both Trusted Housesitters and AirBnb alike…how many cultural and personal differences there can be, complexities which need a lot of discussion and filtering. These platforms really still are experimental and not quality controlled. The QC seems to fall completely on us. I now communicate on TH about cleaning very early on with a basic checklist and reiterate that I aim for a mutual 5 star experience. I also mention that I am experimenting with this site in my profile. (Again, not a staff member you are hiring.)

Sidenote, I also found out I have post CoVid asthma and have for over a year, which explains why I was having trouble with stairs, general energy and some chores in certain homes. It’s not a disability but it does create other weird health issues, and it just reminds me that everyone’s lifestyle and body is different and it shouldn’t be assumed that people are “lazy” or “entitled” if they are struggling with certain things. And that too much physical labor shouldn’t be expected of sitters, we have the right to agree to only what we are able and comfortable to do.

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I walk my dog three times a day with a full time job. Usually approx. 07.00, 16.00/16.30 and the last 22.00-ish. So the dog is used to be at home alone 7-8 hours with three walks per day.

I believe in some countries it is regulated how long a dog can be left alone? I think I’ve heard that animal welfare regulations in UK states 4 hours or so?

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I’ve recently seen a listing for a cat that had to be fed four times a day - the time for each meal was specified . Which doesn’t leave much free time for the sitter . It wasn’t stated that the cat had any health problems requiring this feeding schedule. I also can’t imagine that the hosts really never leave the home for longer than 3 hours on any day of the week .

We didn’t apply .

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I know!!! :rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Eeeeeew! Sorry, but if this was a toilet seat used by you during the sit, you should have cleaned it. If it left in that state by the pet parents and not used by you, then absolutely not! :face_vomiting:

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