I believe I’ve seen petrol (non-diesel) below 1.80 euro per litre here in the UK. I was merely lending a little insight into pricing in Germany is all. ![]()
Hard to say how long it will last now. Reports are the US has deployed 2500 additional troops yesterday, with another 2500 planned imminently, and the administration is going to ask for $200B in additional funding. So they’re preparing to put boots on the ground after all.
As I understand it, the other issue is that the shortages are expected to outlast the war by some time (6+ months) due to the damage inflicted on oil-drilling infrastructure across so many countries, along with the fact that many rigs have been shut off since there’s no way to transport it atm. Apparently bringing them back online isn’t just a matter of flipping a switch; it takes time.
I guess Canadians where I live should stop complaining about the price of gas - it’s currently around $1.56 (€1) litre. I’m not sure if this is the same in other locations, but our prices always also drop by about 15 cents in the evening and overnight, and are still doing that. I also don’t have any need to drive long distances, so the cost increase for me is minimal. I just keep hoping that as long as increased gas cost (and likely food too) is the main way I’m affected by the wars, I’ll be so grateful. ![]()
@Snowbird yup, financial is one thing, bombs on your head very different. Women of the world unite and take over from the silly men ![]()
If you’re not in the U.S., maybe check for EVs from China, like this brand, which has battery stations, where your battery can simply be replaced in three minutes, no charging needed. Unfortunately for us in the U.S., our EV tech is being limited by tariffs. We’re lagging and paying more for inferior tech without stronger competition.
How many Nio battery swap stations are there in Europe?
60 stations across 5 countries, Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
With the launch of its latest car the Chinese electric vehicle maker BYD has made a simple promise to its drivers: “Ready in five, full in nine.” Their new “Flash-charge” second-generation Blade Battery can charge from 10% to 97% in just 9 minutes, and even in extreme cold (-30 Celsius/-22 Fahrenheit) it takes just 12 minutes to charge from 20% to 97%.
The big drawback is that there are no public chargers in the UK that can deliver 1500 kW. ![]()
I think Norway has the greatest adoption rate for EVs in Europe.
Personally I’d love a VW ID Buzz, the current situation might be the prompt to move to an EV.
There are some great second hand deals around, I’d never buy a new car.
I have just looked at the Zeekr Mix as well, way cheaper than the VW.
Hi everyone!
Just a quick nudge as this topic has gone slightly off track and if we could bring it back on topic.
Thank you.
No one said use a standard electrical cord. The car comes with a cord you can plug into a wall outlet. I do see I said standard extension cord or something like that but I meant the cord that comes with the car into a standard outlet, sorry for the confusion.
https://www.tesla.com/home-charging
Its outdoor rated with adapters for 120v or 240v plugs with a 20 ft cord, which we’ve found to be enough to reach most plugs.
@Sam_F Possibly worthwhile to split the EV/alternate cars discussion to a new thread?
The charging stations are the limiting factor.
The fastest Tesla v4 chargers deliver 350 KW.
In real life we still run across plenty of v2 and 3 chargers that deliver 100KW - 250KW.
The issue with no-Tesla charging networks has always been their poor reliability. And a typical Charge point station, for example, is 2 or 3 chargers. Always at least one of not 2 are out of order. That isn’t comforting if you were counting on charging there. The Tesla stations are least 6 but often a dozen or more.
The only issue we’ve ever had charging was at a station in Nevada where there was an are grid outage which also knocked out the station. It was located in front of a casino which had generator backup so we waited in their bar for an hour and a half for power to be restored before we could charge and head on. And that’s in about 8 years of EV driving with many long multi-day road trips.
@Sam_F I second having an ev type seperate thread, as they evolve along with the oil situation there will be more thoughts and discussion.
I’m curious whether the HO was understanding. The one time I cancelled a sit was because a very lucrative job opportunity came up unexpectedly that would be for the time I had committed to a week-long sit. It was five months away, certainly nowhere near last-minute, but the host was really angry. I honestly couldn’t believe it because I had expected human understanding! She begrudgingly cancelled the sit at my request but said if no one else filled it she would expect me to honor my commitment. This happened only a day or two after I had confirmed the sit. This experience scarred me, as I am a very conscientious person but really needed the income opportunity that came up. The official THS rule says cancelling can only occur for “extraordinary” circumstances. I agree that the war counts, but I also felt I was not cancelling for a frivolous reason. Ever since that HO shamed me, I realized five months out is too far ahead to commit, so I’ve changed my own timeline in order not to let anyone else down. By the way, that HO found another sitter in a matter of days and both parties gave a 5* review. However, as tempting as that sit was, I now pass by her listings because what if I had a last/minute emergency - I can only imagine her wrath!
@Treeandcathugger I’m not sure if your question has been directed to me as the topic has gone off track but I’ll respond to you anyway.
Under the current circumstances and uncertainty of long haul travel, the two homeowners I was booked with couldn’t have been more understanding or nicer. They know how things can change rapidly and took the cancellation with grace, very understanding, even saying they hope there will be another opportunity in the future. Both found new sitters immediately and I have spoken with one HO since who thanked me for giving plenty of notice and how everything has worked out well for all concerned. Cancelling is not something I would normally do AT all but this situation i found myself in, my decision seems to be the right one. Sometimes, and I stress sometimes, we must all do what is right for ourselves. For me, personally, and I know it definitely is different for many others, I don’t like to book five months out either. Three for me is good.
It would have to be a very special sit for me to drive to one now these petrol prices have sky-rocketed. I just spent 5 days looking after a friend’s farm 2.5 hours drive from my home, a 350km round trip, and it cost me $83 AUD to fill up half a tank of fuel at $2.57/litre for 98 octane, and I shopped around using an app. I filled up before and after my trip from the same location as I was curious to see what it would cost me. Double that petrol cost to get a ball park cost for actual car running expenses is $166 for basically a local sit in a location I lived for 12 years.
I did this without hesitation for a friend in need. Unlikely I would do it for a stranger unless it was a super special sit. Owners are going to find it tougher and tougher to get sitters with the new THS sit fees and now huge fuel prices.
My elderly parents live over 100km away so I’m saving my car trips to visit them, the rest of the time I will be using 50 cent public transport trips where possible.
@Crookie yes I agree with everything you have said. I even just told my son not to come see me for my birthday, which he would normally do, as it’s a 180 klm round trip. We all see using fuel now as a necessity over a routine journey. It’s very depressing.
I agree that it could, or probably will, be much harder for homeowners to find sitters prepared to drive to sits with the new fees and price of fuel. Haven’t used the .50 cent public transport yet but definitely will be if I need to go somewhere distant, if they keep this perk going. It’s so far from A to B in Oz.





