Oh for the good old days

I’ve noticed that this forum is way more heavily regulated than any others I’ve been on in terms of mods directing the conversation and editing people’s posts without making it clear what is edited and why.

The app though I really like! We started late 2022 and are just starting our 10th sit - haven’t found it too hard to get nice ones although our first couple I wouldn’t do again.

Maybe it’s a generational thing but we’ve not yet stayed the night before with a home owner and it’s never even felt on the cards. I wouldn’t want to I don’t think. We have generally met them beforehand and had friendly chats. Maybe it’s just that it’s a bigger community now. They have pretty much always given us wine/coffee/chocolate and we’ve always responded with a little gift at the end.

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Yes… I agree with so much of what you’ve written. Esoecially about the respect. And the ‘us and them’ - it doesn’t need to be like that. And yet it seems to be what happens, as small businesses with community feel evolve into larger organisations focused on profit and efficiency above humanity. (I don’t know what TH’s business models is - does anyone? Are there shareholders?)

I’m not sure that a business HAS to grow and appease investors. The lure of perpetual growth has got us humans into all sorts of messes. Each business has a choice: grow, and inevitably pare back on humanity and kindness, or simply sustain what you’ve got.

In most sectors, small, ehtical companys often grow into profit-making behemoths - but there are always new ethical start-ups filling the gap…

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We joined in March ‘21 (talk about bad timing :microbe:!) so we aren’t old timers at all, yet I really feel as though I am. The THS that I joined was amazing and so full of promise. I was so excited about getting started with the local sits to build our reputation (I actually worked it out for myself to do that and thought I was a genius :joy:).
I paid huge, detailed attention to our profile and we were so lucky getting every sit we applied for in 2021 (of course we only actually did one of them thanks to Covid). I wrote a little blog article about our experience for the THS newsletter thingy, I was so shiny new and enthusiastic! (When they published it, someone had butchered my copy and it didn’t make sense any more, that should have been a warning sign about the shape of things to come).
I have certainly become so quickly disillusioned. I was a Guinea Pig forum member before it went live and I really put my all into it, giving everything my professional approach and corporate face. I had to take a break for health stuff and when I came back early this year the massive, overbearing changes were astonishing and very disheartening, both with the Forum and the main site changes. Now I get moderated on a regular basis :innocent:
I posted elsewhere a while ago that I wished someone would start another business based on the old format. An old-timer would be great; someone with a business background & skills but who is content with a modest income from it!

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Here’s the irony though @Sunshine_G @Twitcher and many others I’ve forgotten to tag. In numerous marketing surveys (my field of work) and studies since the pandemic, they consistently find that the MOST important things for customers when they choose a business to buy from, are real authenticity and genuine engagement. People want to work with (& spend money with) organisations where they feel like a human not just a number. THS would do well to think about that as they grow.

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I have just been on the app and wow they’re really pushing the “low application” sits. I usually choose where we want to go and then set up a search but if you’re just scrolling for sits in a larger area that would be hard.

I did go to the filters on the top right and changed the order from “recommended” to “newest” which did remove all the low application sits. So many of these sits seem way OTT in terms of what’s required and I generally just ignore them.

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Well said!

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I definitely think pet owners were more grateful back then and treated us like a new friend. I rarely get left gifts any more and often feel like I’m considered an unpaid servant. Maybe there are just too many people doing it now.

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@Wildcolonialgirl yes I must agree on your points, not every sit but most, same thing :disappointed:

@Saltrams no, you are DEFINITELY not an old timer then :joy: But I agree with you, since new rules have been introduced and time has moved on, I definitely feel more disalusioned with the site. I used to just breeze through it, now definitely not the case. Onwards and upwards though as they say :muscle:

I think the experience of HO’s is similar. We joined THS in 2014 (not sure if that qualifies as old timer) and I miss the more personal and relaxed manner of the first few years. We had lots of lovely sitters that were genuinely interested in our pets and respectful of our home. I always leave staples in the fridge and pantry, a few bottles of wine, some homemade baked goods and homemade meals in the freezer that sitters can take or leave as they wish. We pick sitters up from train stations or airports and try and make their stay as comfortable as possible. This all seemed appreciated in the past, but more recently we have had a several sitters that used our house as a base for a holiday or work, neglected our pets and left our house in a poor state (cleanliness wise and occasionally with a few missing things).

I don’t know if it is because the site become more popular or people’s attitudes have changed. But it does make me miss the “good old days”.

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@JennyH sorry, or good (however you look at it lol) I’m calling it. You are an old timer!

I couldn’t agree more with what you have said, all so correct and how it was for me. I often ask myself, why.

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Hi @JennyH - you sound like a wonderful homeowner.
Just to keep things in perspective, there are still some wonderful sitters and homeowners out there but I feel it is becoming more difficult and complex to find each other.
It now feels more of a gamble and we are certainly doing only a fraction of the sits we used to do and a few of those are repeat sits where we know the pets, will be comfortable and feel appreciated.
I speak to many THS ‘old timers’ on a personal basis and we feel recent marketing hasn’t helped. Some, and I stress SOME members are here for the wrong reason and it can be a very stressful and expensive outcome if either the sitter or homeowner get it wrong.
That said, fabulous connections and sits do go ahead every day without an issue.

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There is an article in Time Out saying there’s been a 130% increase in memberhip since the end of the pandemic. Most housesitters are now doing it to save on rent rather because of their love of pets.

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But I wonder how many members were lost during the pandemic….

@Wildcolonialgirl - good for revenue but their reputation may suffer as a result. We are also told that cancellations have not increased but surely they would at least increase in line with the percentages.
More sitters looking to live rent free and more pets with separation anxiety since lockdown doesn’t sound like a match made in heaven to me.

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Thanks @Twitcher. Your user name made me smile (my job is partially about bird conservation). :blush:

It was interesting to read this thread. My husband and I joined the site in 2014. For the most part, our experience seems to be exactly the same as it has been. We have done close to 70 sits on this site during this time, and our experience has been overwhelmingly positive.

Sure there were some times when we encountered unexpected challenges or a sit ended up being different than we thought for one reason or another. But it was usually smaller things that didn’t have a huge impact.

There was only one sit–one of our earlier ones–where we had some more serious issues due the HO misrepresenting a lot about the location, which was in the Costa Rican jungle. He definitely had some issues and was ‘off’ in a lot of ways. My intuition was telling me there was probably going to be issues so it didn’t sting as much when they actually occurred since I didn’t feel blindsided. I took responsibility for the fact I took the sit even though I had reservations. But other than that, we have always dealt with lovely homeowners.

It wasn’t until recently I had any idea about the ‘terms and conditions’ and the various other rules we are supposedly supposed to be following, and being unaware of any of this information has had zero impact on me.

I have just been applying to sits that intuitively felt like a good fit, and for the most part, I have been pretty spot on. Great hosts, great homes, no major problems. Just using the site as it is intended–a platform to connect with people who need a service I am offering.

In all this time I have never had any issue where we needed to involve THS so I can’t speak to that issue of the level of support, but essentially they are platform to connect people, and their involvement is limited–I think some people expect way too much from them in this regard. Many of the most common issues–a HO misrepresenting their home, a sitter or HO cancelling,etc.-- are things they can’t really do much about.

No one is obligated to house sit nor use house sitters. THS isn’t personally vouching for anyone who offers their services here–essentially anyone can sign up so long as they can provide an ID or if in the US pass a basic background check, Neither of those things means anything in terms of whether this person will be a good house sitter.

Taking personal responsibility for using the service and understanding that like many other aspects of life, there is risk involved, is really important.

The only change that truly stands out to me is the 5 application rule, and in all honesty, while I don’t agree with it, I can’t say I have been that personally affected by it. We just finished a 8.5 month stint abroad full of really awesome sits from a huge riverside apartment in Prague to a centrally located apartment in London to a villa in the Turkish Mediterranean along with some other awesome places.

Most of the sits I have seen that are ‘in review’ are ones I couldn’t have done anyway so being annoyed about it was more about the ‘principle’ of the whole thing than actually being affected by it. I may have missed some sits that I could have done, but I figure if I was meant to do any of them, I would have been able to apply.

Anyway, I just wanted to share my experience that while the site has undergone a lot of changes, I don’t feel very affected by much of it, and my experience has been pretty good this whole time. I may not agree with some of the changes, or believe they are that useful, but they don’t actually have a material impact on me so I don’t get too bent out of shape about them.

I think it is important to remember that people are more compelled to post about their negative experiences on places like forums, review site,etc. And the THS forum in particular is only used by a very small percentage of people who use the site in either capacity.

This reminder isn’t meant to invalidate the negative experiences of others; some of the issues presented are certainly worth taking a look at to see if solutions can be found, like the overlapping dates and sitters leaving pets alone. But I think a lot of the negative experiences are much rarer than they may seem if you read a forum like this.

If you just focus in on what the site is at its core–a platform to introduce people looking for a service with those willing to provide it–I think it is fulfilling that function just fine. The more you want it to be beyond that, the more you will constantly find it ‘lacking’ or doing something ‘wrong’ no matter what changes they make.

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@JennyH Yes, it seems that as the site has grown and changed for both sitters and hosts since the infusion of venture capital money and focus on expansion and profitability. We just joined in January 2020, right before the pandemic and have had great luck with our lovely hosts, but in reading the forum comments, it seems like sits are now often more transactional with some hosts and sitters taking advantage or doing the bare minimum instead of treating each other like new friends or community members. I am also a longtime frequent user of airbnbs and that business has certainly changed too. It used to be that as a guest, you met your hosts and it was like staying with friends. Now, it is very transactional and often investors buy up apartment complexes and have them managed by a property management company. Everything is done through messaging and it is very impersonal. As businesses grow, they often move away from the core of what made them special to begin with. I hope that THS does not become the Airbnb of house/petsitting.

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The main difference seems to be, in my opinion, that it used to be for pet lovers (like myself), whereas now its aimed at people wanting free accommodation.

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@JennyH - how wonderful. Yes I love my birds and especially trying to photograph them.
I wish I had known about animal welfare/conservation when I was studying and growing up. I never realised there were career opportunities in that field.

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