Home owner expectations

Currently sitting in San Francisco, at a large home with professional landscaping. They have a gardener who regularly takes care of things outdoors. Indoors, they have a regular cleaner.

This is my 20th sit, including homes with lawns, landscaping and such. 19 rave reviews so far. I’ve never been asked to mow or do yard work. I’ve done watering now and again, but nothing significant, like no more than 10 or 15 minutes or so. That’s because homes have had sprinklers or drip irrigation for most plants outdoors and for grass.

Personally, I enjoy lush landscaping at my homes, but have always paid to have it taken care of. Sprinklers are on timers. That’s because I have no interest in maintaining landscaping and I can make money faster and have such work done by others for less vs. my time.

MANY people do likewise. Otherwise, there wouldn’t be countless landscaping services or housecleaning services.

At one of my more recent sits, my retired hosts arranged for their grown son to visit for mowing. They lived in an urban woodsy setting and I mentioned that I’d picked up some pinecones off the lawn so the super lazy dog could scamper more freely since she always resisted walks. The host-wife said that wasn’t necessary, because they never imagined a sitter doing yard work.

Hosts don’t have uniform expectations. Best to communicate what they need, so they’re more likely to get good matches with sitters.

My current hosts are super chill. They didn’t even specify what time their cats are to be fed — they have a morning meal and an evening meal of wet food and free feed off dry food otherwise. They said timing depended on when I wake up (and presumably when I finish telecommuting). They don’t even care if the cats eat each others’ food. They said they know it happens.

I’ve had other easygoing hosts like that — they said their dog usually had meals and walks at X times, but they figured I’d make things work with my schedule. Of course, I let the dog out and walk as needed, because any sitter would have to clean up bio messes if the pets weren’t taken care of. And most dogs need walking. Common sense.

Some hosts specify X times for meals and walks. I can do that as well. I opt in based on what’s covered in listings and chats. No need to mind-read or assume. And if a listing or chat covers things I don’t want to do, then I skip.

And I sit on both U.S. coasts and have lived on both coasts. I don’t think it’s dependent on the part of the country. It’s more dependent on affluence. Like in neighborhoods where I’ve lived, it’s common to see landscapers routinely working. And every time we buy or sell a house, the landscaping work usually is inherited by the same landscaping companies, because we or buyers ask for such info.

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Okay, where you are this may be the case, but if for the sake of this discussion, you sit a home with a garden, will you not at the very least give a cursory glance at its state of being while you’re the one responsible for the home in its totality? Or would you allow pot plants on the balcony (or whatever) to die because you’re never going to interact with nature in such a way? It’s not logical to me that people feel it’s reasonable to pick and choose what HOUSESITTING means. If you are unable or unwilling to maintain a household in its totality, then don’t apply to sits with gardens.
Many hosts will offer to have a third party come in to maintain their gardens but if you as the sitter notice something needs tending, its your role as the guest with the responsibility of housesitting to look after that. Or find a solution. But to those who are totally against interacting with the natural world, best to stick with appartments that don’t have houseplants.

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Indeed, I recently heard about someone who let her unit for 3 months to someone while she was overseas. She had potted plants on the balcony that were very low care and asked the person to water them (like once a month).

Which did not happen - really? How can you stay in a place and letting the plants just die whereas it literally would have taken like 2-3 minutes to water them, in this case once a month. I can not willfully let plants die under my watch, esp. if it takes very little effort to keep them alive…

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It’s just not logical is it @Bluehorse to be a guest in someone’s home and responsible for that home and not look after the “plant beings” a part of that home. :upside_down_face:
Standards of humanity vary greatly which makes for interesting travel stories but also makes me question the level of awareness of those around me. If you cant do the right thing, don’t apply.

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Why assume sitters aren’t doing “the right thing”? If a host is rating sitters well, as with my sits, we’re matched well on expectations.

About not pursuing sits with gardens or choosing what to do or not on sits, we all have choices as sitters. If I pursue a sit with a garden and a host doesn’t expect me to look after it, because they’ve made other arrangements, how is that anyone else’s concern? How is that “inhumane”? That’s getting into the absurd.

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I pick where to apply based on the responsibilities described. It is there I assess what I’m willing to do or not. Based on tasks the host says is a part of the sit.

If plant care is not described it is reasonable to assume that that is not included. For whatever reason the host might have… Lawn service, irrigation system, the plant need to wither to get flowers next season or just that they don’t care that much. Who knows. Not my place to judge.

If there are undisclosed responsibilities - there’s a problem according to the terms of THS. If one expect plant care it must be described. If not, it is a breach of terms.

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I agree, but if you see something that needs doing, sweep the pathway, rake the leaves, water the pot plants, not major things, just logical ‘part of a household’ thing, then I dont understand why people just dont do it. Thats what I mean by doing the right thing.

Now you are misquoting me, not cool.

What’s absurd is some people think housesitting doesn’t include around the grounds of the house. @Maggie8K I agree that this is a “matching up” . Clear concise communication first, and a matching service to connected like minded humans to each other. That is a basic standard we can agree on right? But what grinds my gears is people deliberately turning a blind eye at basic stuff that can be done. I’m not talking major maintenance, just normal household upkeep.

Maybe I’m not able to express myself as well as I would like because I cant remember a single time when I’ve posted a reply that you’ve actually been positive and nice to me @Maggie8K and I dont need to be at loggerheads with you because you like to argue all the time.

is not logical to me and it’s not the right thing. In My Humble Uneducated Opinion.

I was referring to this, from you:

Sounds like you’ve veered into personal references, which I won’t be pursuing.

No!

most homes, of dogs especially, will have a garden, I am applying to take care of the pet, and the parts of house I use, NOT their gardens.

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It’s seems most people on this forum agree with this too @RedLassie which surprises me because it isn’t logical in my mind. Always learning :grin:

The logic running through is that communications allows for mutual agreement. There is no uniform expectation when it comes to sitting, so why assume duties that haven’t been mutually discussed? That’s totally unnecessary.

And even when duties are agreed on, there can be hiccups. Like I did a sit where I expected to water a handful of plants. No biggie. Well, it turned out that one of the planters was hidden behind a parked car, so it ended up drying out a bit. I trimmed the dead parts, watered and told the hosts once I discovered it (dog happened to wander over). They said they didn’t care, because it was a seasonal plant and they’d be getting a new one for the holidays anyway.

Another set of hosts asked for watering of some outdoor planters. They specified that they weren’t worried if a few plants died, because they sometimes do. And I noticed when I took out the compost bin that they’d already had a few dead plants in there. Not everyone is a green thumb, nor automatically expects sitters to be.

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We have no problem in mowing the lawn when required, especially when there’s a ride-on mower, and we’ve been known to dead-head roses and pull a few weeds when we feel like it, but we’re never going to agree full-on garden maintenance responsibility (though I have seen some sit listings which specify garden work).

At a fabulous sit in France in '23 where there were very many pot plants (both inside and out), we were told to keep an eye on one very large indoor specimen because the previous sitter had overwatered it and it was looking a bit dodgy. We soon realised it was horrendously pot-bound and was dying, so we contacted the hosts, sent pics and asked if we should re-pot it. And that’s what we did.

I was rather worried about this particular plant, since the host had told me she had grown it from a cutting, the parent plant being owned by her late father. I subsequently took cuttings from this one, just in case we couldn’t save it.

When we did a repeat sit for the same hosts last year, we were glad to see this plant was thriving. I have to say though, it was a concern I could have done without! :rofl:

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A pleasant development: My current hosts have offered to pay for my flights if I’ll repeat sit for them in San Francisco. It’s a beautiful home and garden with a regular cleaner and a regular gardener.

They’re first-time hosts on THS — easygoing and we hit it off from the start. I send daily updates on their three indoor / outdoor cats and they say they love that the kitties have taken to me so quickly. Their pets are clearly their priority when it comes to sitting.

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that’s very decent of them. You are a lucky person.

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This happened to me. I joyfully agreed to take care of plants, not knowing and not disclosed that there were over 300 plants in the garden! Never again.

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SMH at several listings seen today

One owner wants sitter to arrive and stay for 1 week immediately prior to the dates that they go away “to get to know the dog”

Another wants sitters to take care of young female pups that might go into heat for the first time and would then need to be separated from the other 6 dogs for the remaining days of the month long sit.

A sit for cats that can’t be left alone for more than 4 hours .

And finally a sit for two large dogs that are “used to having company from 7am to 9pm “

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Wow! I’m wondering if half the problem is these sits, and the other half is that people just don’t read things though carefully because I can’t imagine how any of these sits are getting any interest.

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Randomly wondering: You know people in real life who have a poor sense of self-preservation or judgment, or who seem to repeatedly put themselves into terrible situations or relationships, because they don’t seem to think they deserve better? Maybe that’s happening at times via sitting as well.

Or maybe some folks apply, because they have no intention of doing what the host wants — they might say yes to everything and just do as they please when they show up.

I wonder about such possibilities, because we sometimes hear about sits gone terribly wrong and it’s clear that some people shouldn’t be sitting or hosting — they don’t act in good faith and have little by way of standards or manners.

Meanwhile, those of us with better judgment or self-worth, or good faith, are stumped by such listings and sitters who pursue them?

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This is sometimes a cultural side effect. Some cultures think frankness and saying no are rude and that pretending to go along is respectful and polite.

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Yup. Sometimes I’m amazed at both sitters who took sits that if it was a horror movie the audience would be shouting, “Don’t go in the house!” and homeowners who accept sitters with little vetting.

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