Owner won't complete Welcome Guide

The owner has ignored my requests to publish the TH Welcome Guide and has sent me her own version in a sprawling 11 page Google doc. I am wondering if having the doc on the TH site is better for me or can I just drop it and use her self created one?

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The Welcome Guide can be more than 11 pages of difficult to find information.
I much prefer a word document prepared by the Home Owner.
If there is still missing information then ask for more detail

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She wouldn’t have been ‘ignoring’ your requests to publish the TH guide, she’s gave you the best information possible for her particular sit. Every place is different.

She knows what is best for her home and pets. We’ve had lots of pet owners give us their own guide, because the THS one is quite restricting for some sits, and it isn’t a one-size-fits-all thing.

Typically, it’s when a home is larger-than-most, or they have more animals than most sits, or where things are a little more technical like with swimming pools, alarms, access etc.

As long as she’s gave you a guide and it includes everything you need, then that is the most important thing.

She hasn’t done anything wrong. THS’s guide just simply is not flexible enough for some information.

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As long as her document has all the information you need I don’t see it as an issue. The THS Welcome Guide is notoriously clunky to complete.

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Our current home owner printed out the THS Welcome Guide and it’s 14 pages long! Very poorly formatted when printed out. So don’t despair, be grateful for a (hopefully) more concise guide.

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As a sitter and homeowner, I much prefer a Word (or similar) document to the THS WG format. The THS version is very cumbersome to complete as a HO and difficult to navigate as a sitter.

I have a detailed Word document that I send to sitters before the sit. It is easier for me to create and change and the sitters can use the electronic version to search for key words if they are looking for something. Many other HOs do the same.

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As a HO, I found the THS Welcome Guide too narrow in scope and quite challenging if I’m trying to provide much more than basic info. Plus, I haven’t found a way to reshare my Welcone Guide with a confirmed sitter. I seem to be able to share it once and only once. That’s proven to be an issue when I needed to update stuff for a sitter who accepted a sit 6 months out.
We do have a detailed House Manual we’ve assembled in pdf format in addition to filling out THS’s online Welcome Guide. With a copy of that in hand, you could clarify details from there. Seems that’s the same result with your HO’s hard copy of random details. If the info you need is there, bobs your uncle. If not, followup.

If the host were to use the THS welcome guide format, there’s nothing stopping them from simply pasting in their current doc in chunks. I don’t see how you’d end up with a better result.

Are you saying that you can’t do the sit because 11 pages is too much to read? Or is the host’s doc incoherent?

To me, getting the info is the key thing. It doesn’t matter from my POV what format or platform it’s shared in, because I can read and parse info as needed. If that’s a challenge for you, you might consider pasting the host’s doc into ChatGPT and having it restructure the info so you can better understand it.

You can update your welcome guide on THS and it will automatically let the sitter know that it’s been updated — the sitter gets automatic notification from THS. No need to reshare. At least that’s how I’ve experienced it as a sitter.

It’s annoying if the guide is updated multiple times, because THS doesn’t indicate where the changes are, so you have to read the whole guide over to avoid missing anything, especially theoretically in case you end up with a creepy host who tries to hide info.

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Brilliant. No way I’ve been able to see that functionality exists. Good to know.

Unfortunately, I’ve had to periodically update my Welcome Guide more than a few times. When we first got started on THS, I don’t recall whether we had confirmed sitters but, if so, they probably were annoyed by the dozen or so updates we made as we refined and detailed the Welcome Guide. We settled down with the updates for awhile until I joined this forum and began reading sitter perspectives on what Welcome Guide information they felt was important. I’m a bit chagrined to learn that confirmed sitters were being pestered by notifications by my numerous but minor tweaks. Good to know about the automatic notifications.

There are creepy hosts who try to hide information? Maybe you’d have found my updates creepy when I clarified (not hide) information about our outdoor cameras. Would you find it creepy if I added a note that our robotic vacuum cleaner uses a camera to update us on obstacles it encounters?

Yes, unfortunately, there are creepy hosts who’ve gone back and added to their welcome guides stuff that they clearly should’ve divulged about their pets at the outset, for example. A sitter who used to post frequently mentioned for example that he had gone back into the guide and was lucky to catch such. It probably was before THS added the auto-notifications, because he had gone back to review something and was surprised by the change. This is why it’s a good idea (among other reasons) for sitters to take screen grabs of welcome guides, so they have proof if a host is trying to pull something. Most updates will be innocuous, but there are bad hosts (just like there are bad sitters) in the ecosystem.

@zanasu1, having now completed 50 housesit then we’ve received plentiful Welcome Guides. They vary dramatically in rigour, completeness, effort and format. Some are comprehensive business documents with all info - kudos to such heros! Some are bare minimal. And some don’t exist.
Clearly there is a wrong approach … no WG; misleading WG; missing key information.
But there are ample intermediary levels that are subjective. How much info on pets? How much info on property?
And there is above-and-beyond content (kudo again to the heros!) … details of local amenities, shops, cafes, restaurants, transit; details/maps of routes that dog(s) like to walk; any content intended to enhance housesitter experience.

We do not consider length of WG as proxy for quality. Some short WG have been fabulous and some long WG have been poor.

No doubt there are bad eggs on both sides. Your single second hand, dated example of a (maybe) creepy host reinforces my sense that the creeps are outliers. Maybe your idea of a creepy host is someone like me given that I periodically “sneak” info into the Welcome Guide. Or, extending the benefit of a doubt, maybe “sneaky” hosts are simply updating information as it occurs to them or changes.

To me, of course they’re outliers. Otherwise, who would be sitting if creepy hosts were the majority. And how would THS manage to get people to renew, whether as hosts or sitters, if most of their experiences involved bad eggs. Generally, though, no one wants to get stuck with even one bad egg, whether as sitters or hosts.

They haven’t “ignored” your request. They sent you an 11 page document. The THS welcome guide is a “sprawling” document that is hard to edit and has many sections that might not apply to many homes.

Read the document that was sent. If something doesn’t make sense or is not understandable than ask for a video chat to go over it and ask questions.

Many homeowners don’t use the “official” welcome guide.

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Just wondering if you’re you a new sitter ?
While a Welcome Guide is wonderful, many pet owners don’t use that template and create their own version as it better serves their needs.

As long as you have a WRITTEN document which contains all of the necessary info , you’re good.
You’re not being ignored if they’re communicating and if they’ve provided you with the info prior to the sit.

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Well done for regularly updating the information.
The problem though for a sitter is that we receive notifications that it has been updated but we don’t know what has changed.

Once I receive the WG I make some brief notes for easy reading, so I then have to reread the WG and compare every part to see what has changed.

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Her Google doc is her welcome guide. Just make sure it has all the info you need and ask for clarification. The TH welcome guide isn’t super great anyways

Drop it into Google notebook, then you can ask for an overview or ask specific questions like using your own personal gpt. I’ve used it for my current sit and it works well.

Whichever format I’m provided with, I usually copy the content & reformat / re-sequence into something that works for me.