These are photo enforced speeding tickets and no, in this case its the car license, not the driver. I have already been to court about this. I can assure you I am correct here.
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No I have done that. No it doesnât work that way. They wanât say its theft because I gave him a key to my house and let him into my house. And no it doesnât clear up the tickets, they are connect to the car not the driver. I am responsible. This is why I am sharing this beware. I was shocked both by how little THS can do, and how little legal ground I have to stand on. I have even had a court case on the tickets and the judge straight out said, even though you (I) showed you and your husband were out of the state, the tickets are still connected to the car not the driver!!!
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I have his first name, but not his last. I eventually found it but THS wouldnât help and I am still having to hire a lawyer to get all of his details. Here in the US, if I let him into my home I have to prove that I didnât give him permission, and really there is no way to do that.
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One would think, but they said since I let him into my house, and he returned the car, it is not stolen. He may have thought it came with the house. Really shocking to know that once you let someone into your house, you have almost no rights. I am having to hire a lawyer to demand his full name In DC, for photo enforced speeding tickets, its not the driver, its the license. So there is nothing I can do. And the person blocked me and refuses to answer any emails. And she for all of those that have asked, he is off the site, or at least they said he was, but that doesnât help me at all recover damage or fines.
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I do know my sitterâs first name, but you canât file a police report or track down a person to try to recover the damage if you donât have their last name.
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I am in the US so its US dollars and for photo infractions it is not the driver it is the car license. Also because THS wonât share his full name, until I get a lawyer to request it, if I wanted, I canât pursue him in small claims court. Like really, if something goes awry you have no rights. This has been a really hard lesson. All that happens is he is kicked of the site. That doesât help me with the damage to my house, the liquor he drank had a party, had another dog here, a puppy, which is a big deal I didnât approve that, also accrued 9 speeding tickets in just a few days, all well over the speeding limit, so it could have been much worse.
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If they used your car without permission, that is theft or at least joyriding. You can file charges. Are they from the same country?
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FYI, even if you win in small claims court, you still have to figure out how to collect. There usually is no collection mechanism. You can check in your jurisdiction.
And ideally, figure out whether they have assets before going through the effort of suing. Otherwise, if theyâre poor, good luck getting anything out of them. And then youâll have had a pointless victory in court, after effort and time. (And expense, if you hired a lawyer.)
And figure out how youâd collect if you won. Like itâs ideal if they own a home or some other property that you can put a lien against. Thatâs because if you have a lien, they canât sell the property till theyâve settled, because no one will buy a property with a lien attached. (Most people get loans/mortgages to buy, and the banks wonât allow an existing lien to carry over to a new loan.)
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This isnât the case in most U.S. jurisdictions â thereâs no universal jurisdiction in the U.S. that determines this. Thatâs because traffic laws usually depend on each state. Thatâs why you have to get a new license if you switch states.
D.C. is just weird with various things.
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This doesnât happen in the UK. But you have to give the drivers details I thinkâŚ.i donât know for sure though.
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@AbigailDC, thanks for sharing your experience. I donât think you did anything wrong, you were really unlucky. This is supposed to be a mutual trust agreement so itâs just natural to trust that people wonât drive your car without permission. In most of my sits, car keys were on plain sight.
Itâs clear you have done your best to sort this out. All I can do is sympathize with your situation and wish you good luck.
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@AbigailDC
He did borrow and use without permission, although he will probably say you granted permission.
Iâm pretty confident the speeding fines issue will get resolved by the police eventually.
If crimes have been committed, I would have thought that THS would have to divulge that information to the police, regardless of privacy laws.
If it was a more heinous crime, the police would find a way to get details, Iâm pretty sure about that!
For example, if he deliberately ran over someone, would you be prosecuted for manslaughter?
The whole saga has been awful for you though and I sincerely hope you get the best outcome possible.
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Hi @AbigailDC
Iâm so sorry this happened to you.
I can see youâre in touch with our Complaints team about whatâs happened, and Iâve passed over your comments and concerns from your post, just for further context.
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They blocked me from their phone.
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I do have their number, they blocked me. Also they sat for me before without an issues. I told them not to drink from the liquor cabinet and left them several bottles of wine to enjoy.
He sat for me prior without issue, so I trusted he wouldnât go âbuck wildâ this time. I was wrong. I have his first name and his phone number but it doesnât help if he blocks me. I canât get his full name and address from THS without a letter from a lawyer, which I am working on.
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Absolutely horrible. I feel sorry for you
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Oh gosh, thatâs even worse if heâs sat for you before. I still donât understand why you didnât get his full name. We all learn from experience though.
Good luck!
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Yes same country. I went to the police, they said nothing they can do. I had a virtual hearing on the tickets, showed I was out of town, they still said I was responsible because it was my car. I said I was out of town not driving it, didnât give him permission, judge said it doesnât matter. If he never returned the car, then I could say he stole it, but since he returned it, whoâs to say he took it without my permissionâŚ
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