Feedback about premium memberships

I’ve got more feedback if THS is still listening. I have premium, but I noticed in this forum and the other away one, there is so much hostility to the premium tier. So many members are outright dismissive of the cancellation insurance pointing out to begin with that it is not insurance.

It’s not, but it is a “plan” and the information inviting people to join the plan describes the plan with words like “will” and “cover” and it sounds insurance-like enough. Plus before I upgraded, I asked around and checked and found members – both sitters and homeowners who’d gotten their claims processed so I had enough faith that it would work.

HOWEVER, after seeing so many people dismiss it, I took a good look at the actual numbered terms – not the description that you sign on to, but the terms. I could understand exactly why so many people who have never paid for it think it’s a joke. In fact, it made me a little sick and I thought I might have to rethink a few things.

The wording doesn’t describe WHEN the plan will payout. The wording says it’s always at THS “sole discretion” and then goes on to list the times that they “absolutely will not” pay out. As written, some of those conditions could be applied to almost any sit if THS decided not to pay out, so I completely get why it is a nonstarter for so many. When you go through the terms as written, THS could always find a reason not to pay and there is no transparency. It really is a gamble in a way that most actual insurance is not a gamble.

Most of this is a language issue. It really looks like they coud run it by an attorney again to spin the language in a more positive way without actually being forced to pay bogus claims. “Under the following conditions the plan will pay…” sounds much better than opening with “the plan absolutely will not pay” and then listing conditions which absolutely could absolutely apply to any sit!

For instance:. Clearly the party who applies cannot be the party who initiates the cancellation – except that there is a big exception. There are sitters and homeowners who have in fact gotten the payout because the other party breached serious terms and the sit needed to be cancelled because of that breach. That is not included in the actual terms. Possible examples similar to ones I remember reading about in forums include: A homeowner who cancelled and claimed because neighbors called the police on the wild party the sitter was holding while the dogs were locked up in the yard howling. OR A sitter claimed after arriving at a sit and finding dangerous term breaching conditions that they were misled about. To not word this to include the breach of terms by the other party is not only problematic, it could put both homeowners and sitters in jeopardy.

Another reason for denying is if the cancellation was agreed to by both parties. I think they mean if it was fraudulently agreed to by both, and that conidtion exists later in the list. The thing is any cancellation is ultimately “agreed to” by both parties. If I’m a homeowner and I tell a sitter, “Sorry, the dog is very sick so we’re canceling the vaction and the sit,” the sitter is in no position to “disagree” with my decision. Similarly, if I’m a sitter and I break my leg a week before a sit and cannot walk the dog or even travel, and won’t be able to do a sit, the homeowner will agree that I cannot do the sit. I understand why my premium won’t help me with my broken leg, but it certainly shoud help the homeowner who paid for this very thing!

If the corporate goals are to both scale up in numbers AND raise prices, it woud seem to me that one area that both sitters and homeowners have issues with is cancellations. Ideally, getting “everyone” to sign on to a “cancellation plan” might help scale up even with a higher average membership price. Forcing people to sign up for a plan that may double what they are now paying when they don’t believe the “cancellation plan” is actually a tangible benefit is not going to go over well. It’s not going to work for new members and it’s not going to help with retention. It’s an actual problem for THS.

Even airlines that have raised rates using tiers offer something tangible for the tier – seat selection, early boarding, “free” luggage. The problem with premium is that many users see the key benefit as a scam and minor language changes could change that without changing the actual conditions of payouts or even meaning there would be more payouts .(There are also other steps THS could take to help avoid some cancellations before they happen or to help find sitters or sits to avoid the payouts.)

Anyway, I’m not going to bother emailing this to the company where it will be read by AI and I’ll get a form letter back if that. I’m going to put this out here and hope a moderator will forward it to the products people. @Jenny

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Hi @Marion

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

I’ve started a new discussion for you as I think this makes a really interesting topic. I also passed your thoughts over to the team.

If I hear anything back I’ll let you know, but as we’re so close to the holidays, there’s likely to be a delay in getting back to you as I’ll be finishing up today until after new year.

I’m interested to hear everyone’s thoughts on your post.

Jenny

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Good job Marion. Interesting topic. I hope more members look into that.

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Super-agree with most of your points, @Marion.

Not trying to be antagonistic, but laying out my thoughts: To me, the gist is that Premium doesn’t really provide much tangible value for the added cost — until now, and strictly as a remedy for the irritation of being nickle-and-dimed by booking fees. In most cases, however, the added subscription cost will be more than if the fees were paid individually.

Specifically:

— Lounge Passes: are for secondary lounges that can be few & far between, & you only get 2 passes per year. You can blow through that on your first outbound trip if you have a companion, or a connection. On top of that, many frequent travelers have premium lounge access via other means.

— Vet call line: is a once-in-while, nice-but non-critical add-on. Most likely we’ll be calling the hosts’ local vets for advice or heading straight to the ER, if issues occur.

— Premium badge: now this has been moved to the bottom of our profiles, does this do *anything* anymore?

— Cancellation insurance: I’ve also seen all the restrictions, loopholes, limits, & subsequent forum complaints about this benefit (the primary offering that convinced me to sign up for Premium when I joined.) I now just assume it won’t ever come into play, or cover my added expenses in the event of a cancellation. Good thing I can afford the costs if disaster strikes.

To be clear, I do think there’s an opportunity for Premium to become a truly valuable benefit, & I’d be gratified to know THS management takes us seriously enough to consider enhancements. Spit-balling a few ideas:

  • Cancellation insurance: expand it. Clarify the actual conditions. Make it real. Establish a reputation for paying claims. (Partner with a 3rd party if that improves things.)
  • Partner with a travel insurance company like Allianz to include real travel/medical/accident insurance.
  • Partner with someone like Trupanion to add accident and/or catastrophic pet insurance during sits.
  • Partner with a car rental company to provide discounts or premium benefits like Hertz Gold etc.
  • Maybe some AAA auto benefits?
  • Give premium subscribers tangible platform benefits. (Lots of opportunity here.) How about if Premium sitters and/or Hosts get to exceed the 5-application limit? Float Premium listings to the top of search results? Expand how many photos I can include in my profile, and/or give me formatting tools. (Again, spit-balling…this could be a whole topic.)

Honestly, if some of these were included & reliable, I might even pay more for Premium. I would certainly be less cynical about the direction the company appears to be headed. THS members are very aligned with the concept of “a fair exchange.” :wink:

(I would also add that providing some of these enhancements would encourage members to book on the platform, instead of going outside it. If the Sitter isn’t premium, the homeowner might be, & would want the sit to be “on the books.”)

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That is impressive… exactly what THS should have worked on instead of a sit fee by making Premium truly premium. THS should be offering you a job.

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We’re not in disagreement about any of this: The cancellation plan is not viewed as a tangible benefit by many people.

I will say that fees add up so in my combined case given, where sometimes I would need to pay 2 separate booking fees, I probably come out ahead on premium. It really depends on how and how much you use the site.

I also think if they are seriously looking for ways to make money with every booking your ideas of more discounts and partnerships for various kinds of insurance and other tangibles could show up as “add ons” for non-inclusive member tiers. It might be a drag to see them pop up every time and decline them but that’s what I go through every time I rent a car.

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Sorry — I meant I wasn’t trying to be antagonistic toward THS. DEFINITELY wasn’t directing that part at you.

I’ve had some sharp things to say about the booking fees & just wanted them to be clear that I was trying to offer constructive & sincere feedback, vs kvetching. :upside_down_face:

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No worries. I didn’t take it as antigonistic. Just meant we were on the same page. And don’t get me started on kvetching. I’m from New York City where it is how we pass the time, but I remember briefly living in a certain West Coast city I won’t name and mentioning how the bus service was terrible at night only to be told, “If you don’t like it here why don’t you move back to New York!” which is did btw.

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Other potential platform benefit idea(s) for Premium subscribers:

Saved application templates: Let me create one or more generic sit applications & save them as templates that I can quickly customize & submit in response to a listing.

Great ideas, those benefits would be much for valuable to me than what is currently offered with the Premium membership.

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