Trusted Housesitters, but not Trusted Homeowners

I love this site so much! I just don’t think sitters are granted very much respect. I’ve booked over 10+ sits and I am currently staying in homes abroad. It’s been amazing, but I’ve encountered such insane issues that I cannot believe. Basic human needs issues. My current situation has a major mold/mildew problem that was not disclosed to me prior to the sit. My last sit had a CAMERA that was not disclosed to me and was generally filthy and dirty. Prior to that, I had to leave a sit early because the area was so unsafe and I was sexually harassed there. The owner completely bent the truth about the location, which I am also encountering on my current sit. Lying about the neighborhoods the homes are in is so wrong. I also stayed in a home with a shower that didn’t work and a “private” bathroom outside the flat that someone kept breaking into to use.

I wish the site would do more to ensure that the homeowners are sharing all the right information so the sitters aren’t left trapped in dangerous, uncomfortable, demoralizing situations. I also wish THS would do more as mediators between the sitters and homeowners. Most of the time when I’ve raised these issues with the site, I am told to just talk to the homeowner. No. I’m a premium sitter. Where is the safety precautions and general respect for us?

We are not landlords, handymen, maids, or veterinarians. We are adult human beings. Some of us with FAMILIES. Some of us are solo female travelers. I think the homeowners think we should be lucky to not be staying in hostels. I pay a lot of money for this site every year. I just ask to be treated like a human being.

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Hi @sabhob

Thanks for sharing, I think it’s a really important discussion because from time-to-time challenges will arise.

It’s important to recognise the great experiences that you’ve had, but equally to address the less than ideal ones too.

Our member services team are here to support 24/7, however in most cases, we’ve found that the best (and fastest) resolutions are achieved when sitters and pet parents identify solutions together. More often than not, great communication between sitters and owners (before and during) is a strong indicator that it’s going to be a great sit.

Of course, if a scenario arises where one party is not being entirely honest, that is a trickier obstacle to overcome.

Safety of pets, members and property is of paramount importance to us and we’ll work with everyone involved to ensure this.

You’re likely already doing everything you can, but I’m curious what steps other sitters have in place that reduce the likelihood of having a negative experience?

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Hi. This is missing the point entirely. It should not be on me as a sitter to enter a situation that is unsafe or bad for my health. I spoke to the owners about the BLACK MOLD issue and they sent baking soda in the mail. They should not have put up a listing in the first place knowing this was an issue and the site needs to vet homeowners better. It’s incredibly demeaning, considering that I take such good care of these homes and animals.

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I also want to say that every single time I’ve addressed one of these serious safety issues, the homeowners have spoken to me with absolute disrespect for the rest of the stay. We need better mediation from the site. Especially for those paying the premium membership. I should not be spoken to poorly just because I’ve brought up the fact that I found a LIVE camera in a bedroom, which is against THS rules.

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I think in this instance, the unfortunate solo female sitter that is @sabhob has already encountered banned indoor cameras, infectious black mould, dangerous neighbourhoods, harassment & sits with no running water. And she’s travelling abroad alone and facing all this as one of your premium supporters. Surely someone at THS MS can find the time for some advice, empathy & support and not just bat it off to other sitters to solve. #timetostepup

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I am sorry to hear you have had so many negative experiences. I have been sitting for 11 years and mine has been very positive this whole time–sure here and there some stuff has come up but nothing of the magnitude that some sitters seem to be encountering.

There is a lot to unpack in your post but just a few things that I would say:

THS is nothing more than a matching platform at its core and lots of the most common issues sitters and hosts encounter are ones they really can’t do much about preventing completely or fixing once they have arisen, whether it is cancellations on either side, absent or misleading info from a host, etc…

As for the state of houses, they have in the terms and conditions that sitters should be provided a safe, comfortable environment, but short of employing some global army of home inspectors that would need to give their stamp of approval before someone could post a listing, they can’t do much in that regard.

For any sitter that is deeply concerned about the state of the houses– especially because of bad past experiences– they best they can do is insist on a video tour and/or explicitly and clearly lay out what they expect the host to do to prepare for their arrival and be sure the host agrees to it.

THS really can’t do anything about the state of the houses of any of the hosts who join–their primary purpose is to match people offering a particular service with those willing to provide it. It is not like they are a travel company recommending hotels that they have personally vetted to meet a particular standard. Their site offers sitters an opportunity to travel, but they aren’t directly offering a travel experience…there is a difference there.

Being that the site is just a matching platform and they are not a direct party to these arrangements, there is very little they can require either side to do, so their role in problem-solving will be rather limited in most instances.

While they can set certain guidelines and recommendations for listings, they can’t guarantee a host is going to include everything they should be including, that they are disclosing everything they should be disclosing–sitters have to take responsibility for their experience and ask the appropriate questions.

Of course it isn’t fair if a host lies or misleads but once a sitter has a particular type of experience, then they know for the future to ask about certain things to minimize the risks in future sits.

Us sitters are not working on behalf of the company we are not their employees, meaning they don’t have any true obligations or responsibilities towards us.

I am sorry that you are having a bad experience, but much of it isn’t the direct fault of the site and your expectations sound a bit unreasonable and unrealistic.

I know that what is considered ‘expensive’ is subjective, but the membership fee, even at the premium level, probably equates to one or two nights in a mid-range hotel in many Western countries. Now if we were paying thousands of dollars for a membership, that would be a different story, and the site would likely function very differently for both parties.

Being that it is not a paid activity, I can only imagine that those who continue to do it even though they are having a lot of bad experiences is because they feel dependent on it in some way, whether for general housing or as the only feasible means to engage in more frequent leisure travel.

So if just stopping it altogether doesn’t seem feasible, it is important to examine whether their selection process can use some tweaking–people often choose sits from a wonky energy of fear and lack, or they get attached to a location and fail to consider other elements of the sit for example.

Of course even the most diligent sitter can get caught out with a bad experience, but for many long-term sitters like myself who have rarely had truly bad experiences over a period of years, that simply can’t be chalked up to luck.

I do sympathize with what you shared here, but you need to shift perspective –the type of ‘vetting’ they would need to do for hosts to combat many of the issues you listed just wouldn’t happen. They would need to do things like personally inspect the houses, personally interview hosts before joining, ‘fact check’ listings and such.

Again, they are just a matching platform and while I do think they do make an effort to improve the experience for both sides, they are just way too many variables for which they cannot account or control. I think they mean well with the membership services and offering people a chance to voice complaints and problems but again, not a lot they will be able to do about much of it even if they wanted to.

At best, you can raise formal complaints about these hosts and THS can take the appropriate steps. If the sit is truly that bad you can leave, though I know that is not ideal in many instances.

Of course the forum is a place to vent and discuss what people think ‘should’ be done, how things ‘should’ be, and perhaps some things will change down the line. But at the end of the day, all that really matters is how things actually are and managing expectations based on present realities.

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No one should have to experience the things you have but I’m surprised that with the review system that is in place these sits get sitters in the first place. I hope your future sits are better.

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I know dozens of sitters who have never had an experience like yours. Those that have, have had it once, learned from it, and moved on. I will address a few of the issues:

The address of the sit is shared in the welcome guide. Do you do a “Google street view” analysis of the location when you receive it? Check local crime statistics via the police department website? Maybe hop on Zillow or similar real-estate sites to see what you’re getting into? An address is an address - there is no “bending”

When you raised a member dispute with THS about this, what was their response?

This is not their job. They are matchmakers, not mediators. As you so wisely said, “We are adult human beings.” Adult human beings work things out amongst themselves. If someone breaks the terms of service, like having an indoor camera, THS can and will intervene. But things that are a matter of personal preference - which includes cleanliness standards - require tough conversations and firm communication.

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Curious to know what kind of reviews you leave for these sits? Do you warn the next sitter? Because that’s the best way of the HO changing or leaving, if nobody will sit for them it’s self correcting. I agree it shouldn’t happen in the first place, but screening before committing to a sit is a big part of self protection.

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Did these problem sits have any reviews? Were they honest? Sitters can only be guided by reviews left by other sitters. THS can’t possibly personally inspect every home.

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Yes, some sits are bad. They are in the minority though.

Scenarios where one party is 100% good and the other one 100% bad are unlikely, however.

Yes, everyone can get unlucky and I’m sorry for everyone who gets taken advantage of and hurt. It has happened to me too and THS was no help. Now I seem to be better at choosing sits, no longer over enthusiastic like I was in the beginning. However, I think either side can still get unlucky even if they do their best to choose wisely. It’s a risk that goes with this adventure here…

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Having different view points is really important, but let’s be supportive of each other. :slight_smile:

@sabhob Camera’s inside properties and dishonesty like you’ve described isn’t ok.

Our support teams are here and I have reached out internally regarding some of your comments. My hope is that within this forum discussion we can explore tips that may help you, and others, who are setting out on their housesitting journey.

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Sounds like you’ve had a bunch of bad sits, which makes me wonder whether you should tighten up in how you screen listings and hosts. What you describe are an unusually high number of bad sits.

THS is just a matching platform, so due diligence and backup plans are your best bet. That’s true for sitters as well as hosts.

Sitters who do well on the site need to not be desperate to sit, are selective about hosts and sits, have resources to leave sits that violate terms, and are able to uphold boundaries, communicate well and problem solve. Such abilities are key to maintaining leverage and not being taken advantage of. Otherwise, sitters can leave themselves vulnerable to being trapped or stranded by sits gone wrong.

THS won’t be doing what you want, because it’s not pragmatic or affordable, given what we pay. Members also need to contribute accurate reviews for the system to function optimally. Unfortunately, various members don’t, prioritizing themselves over the ecosystem, which also contributes to worse experiences for themselves, bigger picture.

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Unfortunately, there are lots of posts here on the forum which are judgemental and generalising. Therefore, potential support from like-minded people is cut off, as members might stop reading the forum after too many comments of the “it was all your own fault “ type.

Let’s see where this thread goes, to a bickering fest or more in a supportive direction, I hope for the latter.

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THS don’t vet sits - it’s just an advertising platform. What THS can do to help is limited .

There is the Urgent Support 24/7 Phone Line -
If you encounter a bad situation on a sit you can call for support .

You can also raise a member dispute for sits that break the terms that all members agree to .

Internal cameras are NOT permitted .

The best experiences seem to be for sitters who can afford to leave unsuitable sits .

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@KC1102 For the most part I agree with you regarding the do-it-yourself vetting that both homeowners and sitters need to employ. For the most part, I’ve had great “luck” with the homes I’ve sat, and with the sitters who’ve come to my space.

However, THS doesn’t just advertize itself as just a matching site. The advertisement toward sitters is “unique” places to stay and never pay for a hotel again. And for homeowners it appears as “unlimited” housesitting for one low fee.

Because they only make money from membership, there is a lot geared toward getting people to sign up but no vetting of the people who sign on other than identity checks for sitters and in the US criminal background checks.

Personally, I do not think it would terrible or prevent too many from joining if you had to digitally inital some stuff for homeowners like:

  • Agreeing not to have or to remove or disconnect all indoor cameras and audio devices before a sit
  • Make explicitly clear that stuff like toilet paper and cleaning supplies sufficient for at least the first two weeks of the sit must be supplied.
  • Agree that clean linens and towels will be supplied for the sitter’s arrival
  • Pet behavior information will be updated and honest

And more.

Sitters also should initial that they are making true statements about experience, and about themselves. They should clearly commit to the TOC especially around stuff like not abandoning a sit, and more.

As it is, THS is not good about communicating expectations to either sitters or homeowners.

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I thought the same thing. But sitters seem reluctant to share poor reviews.

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I’m sorry that you have had a string of bad sits abroad. There is nothing I can say or do to help you out of the situation you are in. However, maybe a little advice on how to avoid these types of sits.

If the pictures on the listing are messy - jog on by. If they can’t be bothered to tidy up for listing pictures you can bet your bottom dollar it’ll be as bad if not worse when you arrive.

Read the whole of the listing. I’m always suspicious if it’s short and contains very little relevant information.

Always use the video call to have a look around. Questions like “can I see where I will be sleeping?” And “I really like a large shower cubicle, can I see the size of the one I’ll be using?” means they have to move around. Watch carefully.

Ask to see the animals, where they sleep. Ask about their meals, medicine, walks. Get a feel if the animals are truly looked after properly.

Questions about the kitchen next.

If you are near enough suggest meeting before the sit is due to start.

Don’t ignore nuances or other red flags. After your experiences you should have the rule, one red flag and I walk.

Security cameras are difficult. I am at the point if I see them they get unplugged or turned round to face the wall. Outside security cameras are there for protection so I do not mind them. (Most of the homes I sit in are large and isolated so outside cameras are very welcome).

But most of all, your (sound) young, you sit alone, be careful. If you feel unsafe walk away. If it comes to it, take the pets with you but do not stay in an unsafe environment. At the moment you are having a series of bad sits so make your rules, sit for couples, sit in towns or cities and always have enough in your bank account to get home or some safe place with friends or relations.

It’s a great life but sitters have to work very hard to make it great. Communication is the key. Keep going and if you have to vent there’s always someone on the forum to listen.

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Thanks for sharing these thoughts and advice, EliseDownie! I’m not the OP, but I’m fairly new to sitting through THS and these are all really good ideas to put into practice for potential future sits :light_blue_heart:

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Oh my gosh! That all sounds so stressful. I’m so sorry to hear you’ve had to deal with all of that, and shocked that pet/home owners think it’s ok to not disclose major things.

I’ve only done a couple sits on THS so far and in both cases, the hosts gave me a video walk-around of their place and their pet on our first call, which was hugely helpful and not something that I, as a new sitter, would have thought to ask for. Not that you can see mold in a video tour. That’s just… wow.

I also just had my first sitter stay at my place for a month. Leading up to her stay, I spent time daily making sure everything in my home was clean clean clean. Before she accepted, I also disclosed the issue I’ve had with carpet beetles (they eat natural fibers), now mostly eradicated, and how to protect her clothing against them. I’d think this kind of prep is common sense - doing unto others and all that.

Your mention of neighborhood safety and being sexually harassed (terrible!), made me realize, though, there was potentially more I could do. Things do happen in my neighborhood from time to time, but because I feel very comfortable here, it hadn’t occurred to me to mention possible safety risks. You’ve reminded me that different people have different expectations and tolerances, so in the future, I’ll be sure to mention safety as well.

I hope your future hosts will do likewise - with safety and everything else about their home that you should know.

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