HOs Who Ask For Help / Advice / Feedback on Their Listings

Absolute legend, @Nagy26 :slight_smile:

Watch this space, I’ll try to get an update in the coming weeks about this idea for a feedback space for owners and sitters.

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I’d look for recurring themes we’ve been seeing. One I’ve seen frequently is the disconnect between when HOs put the sit start date vs when they want the sitter to arrive. So maybe a section like this:

Sitter Arrival/Departure:

Please have your sit date start and end on the dates you want your sitter to arrive and depart and mention in your listing what time would be ideal for them to arrive/depart. If you expect the sitter to stay in your home overnight before you depart, you should specify that in your listing and be prepared to offer them a private and comfortable place to sleep and food and beverages for the duration of your overlap. They are your guests during this time and should be treated as such. Please note that many sitters are not interested in having an overlap so requiring this might limit your applicant pool."

Another:

Advanced Meetings:

Please be aware that it is uncommon and generally difficult for sitters to come visit your home before the sit starts. If you require an advance meeting before the sit is confirmed or before it starts, you should mention it in your listing and know that it’s going to drastically limit your applicant pool

Minimum Information

The following is a non-comprehensive list of the minimum information your listing should provide directly in the location text.

  • Things to do/Activities/Places of interest in your area, including how to access them and time to do so via car, public transport, walking. How would you sell your location to someone who was considering a visit?
  • General instructions on how the sitter can reach your home if they don’t have a car. Ex: nearest airport/bus/train station and whether you’d be willing to arrange a pick-up with them.
  • Your pets daily schedule including feeding times, walk times and duration, how long they can be left alone, if they need to use a crate while they’re alone, how often and at what times do they generally need a potty break, and anything else regarding the daily routine of your pet.
  • A summary of your pets behavior. How are they on a lead, can they be let off lead, do they have good recall, are they at all reactive to other animals or humans, do they expect to sleep in the bed with the sitter, do they have separation anxiety.
  • Are there any medical requirements including special diet, medications, toileting issues, etc.

Household Maintenance

  • Please indicate any household Maintenance the sitter will need to perform. This could include: watering plants, mowing the yard, shoveling snow, pool maintenance, etc.
  • Please indicate what type of heating/air-conditioning your home has and whether there will be any limitations on how/when/to what extent the sitter will be able to use it.

Amenities

Please make sure your amenities list is up to date so sitters get the full idea of what your home provides. If you indicate your home is good for remote working, consider running a speed test and including that information in your listing for those who work remotely.

I’d also make a list of the minimum required photos and other minimum required info. As I go through threads I’ll try to remember to tag you in on FAQ type things.

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That’s great, thanks for that!

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I’ll keep editing that post as new things surface in my brain. I’ll do my best to get the idea out and leave it to you to polish it up so it reads well. lol

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Sounds great! :smiley:

@Cuttlefish

So true. Admitting to being wrong can be seen as a blow to a person’s ego and confidence. And there can be fear of being judged or criticized by others, particularly in a public setting, such as the forum.

Also there can be a perceived stigma of the older people get, the wiser they must be–so they may have an attitude of: “You can’t tell me what to do.” But everyone has different life paths and learn different things at different times and at different ages.

When HOs are asking for help / advice / feedback on their listings, one would hope that they all would be open to change and not be resistant to it.

When doing something over and over is not working—why not try something different?

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@Newpetlover

In my opinion, if we say “criticism”, that carries a negative connotation that points out a person’s flaws and shortcomings. On the other hand, if we say “constructive feedback”, then we are offering supportive statements / comments that can lead towards improvement.

I would hope that HOs seeking help / advice / feedback are offered constructive feedback rather than criticism.

Just as @Cuttlefish pointed out that “no one likes to be told that they are wrong”, no one likes to be criticized. If people are criticized. it may feel like they are being attacked, and no one wants to feel that way.

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@Jenny if this idea moves forward, it would likely be a good idea to update the last minute sits section to recommend people post in feedback first/concurrently when posting in last minute to make sure their listing is optimized.

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We would and could hope but people never do what you expect, or not all of them anyway. As my grandma would have said “nowt so queer as folk” @sharondc :rofl: Like this idea of a section just for profile and listing feedback @Jenny :raised_hands:t3: #teamworkmakesthedreamwork

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@Cuttlefish

One (I) can hope for wanting things to be better—to improve. One can choose how to use his / her words. One can choose to be optimistic or pessimistic. One can choose to be positive or negative. I have found that usually people that criticize others is because they themselves feel insecure and attack others to feel better about themselves. They spew rude and hateful comments.

What does this mean?

And like my grandma said, “If you don’t have anything good to say, don’t say anything”.

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To me it basically means people are weird but i’m sure it has different meanings to different people.

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Or as we say up North @Cuttlefish

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God’s Own County @Twitcher :heart:

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It means there’s nothing as strange as the way some people can be sometimes. It’s an old fashioned expression that you don’t hear much anymore but sums people up perfectly. #lifeislikeaboxofchocolates :heart_eyes:

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Some folks lack common sense or problem-solving abilities or are lazy. Like apart from THS, you’ll hear some job hunters say that they’ve applied for hundreds or thousands of jobs without success. But if you do hiring, you’ll see that most applicants just do spam-applying — they don’t actually make the effort to make their applications relevant to the openings. They don’t prep for interviews and such. And that’s when they’re looking to earn, presumably so they can stay alive and keep their families fed, housed, etc.

Meanwhile, there’s endless info online for free, available to anyone who searches, on how to better your odds when job hunting. If you get job applications, it’s obvious who’s made the effort vs. spam applications that get deleted immediately.

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I know “criticism” is linked to negative connotations, maybe I am projecting some connotations from my mother tongue but I meant it in a general sense of “analysis” that includes both positive and negative aspects. Of course, constructive feedback is desirable and that’s what this forum is about, mostly.

What I mean is, when we start a thread, we can’t expect everyone is going to agree with our opinions and support our views. If we ask for advice, there’s an implicit implication of introducing some kind of change and we have to be open to those suggestions of changes. That doesn’t mean we have to follow people’s advice but we shouldn’t be mad at them for giving their opinion when asked. Although this is an exceptionally nice and caring forum, I think on Internet forums there’s always a risk of someone being a bit too harsh or judgmental.

On the other hand, there are both HOs and sitters on this forum and sometimes there are really one sided posts which are bound to get some criticism. As @Cuttlefish mentioned that’s part of human nature, too.

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I agree. Too often judgment and criticism is passed on to someone and then more people want to jump on the bandwagon and criticize some more.

And as a result, the person asking for help feels bad and is never heard from again because someone was being “too harsh and judgmental”.

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@Maggie8K

Part of it is people being lazy and part of it is people just simply not trying.

I remember taking a swim class in college. I was a novice and because I nearly drowned when I was 13, I had a fear of the water. So, when the swim coach was teaching us how to tread water, I said, “I can’t do it.” The swim coach told me, “Never say I can’t, but I’ll try.” Those words stuck with me through the semester, I learned to tread water, and I made a B in that class. Those words still stick with me today.

Sometimes life is about treading water.

Just try! People may shock themselves—if only they try.

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Absolutely. My belief is, keep leaning into discomfort so that you keep growing as much as possible. And that serves us in life, because it actually helps make you braver over time as well.

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That’s pretty much true in life — no one avoids getting their feelings hurt sometimes. But if someone gets their feelings hurt a lot, they would benefit from toughening up. Otherwise, their path in life will be an unnecessarily hard one.

My family is from a culture that would be collectively described as harsher than most. What that’s helped me with: You see things in perspective and realize that ultimately you should never let others push your buttons or such. And it’s much better to focus on what you control than to lean heavily on others’ opinions, especially those of strangers, online or otherwise.

Don’t let others spoil things for you. We can’t control what others say or do. We control how we frame things and react (or not).

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